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Lucas's avatar

Reading this as a machine learning person who spent NeurIPS asking authors “what do you want this work to make possible?” and getting a lot of “uhhh” in response, your secret third real finally gives me a name for why that felt so off.

The distinction between real 1 and real 2 and this third sense matches almost exactly the filter I’ve been groping toward. I keep running into papers where the math is fine and the benchmarks click, but I can’t tell what the authors think should happen in the world as a result, or what phenomenon they actually care about understanding. Your classification makes that discomfort legible instead of just grumpiness.

I also really appreciated the willingness to kill projects once you realised they weren’t going to be “real enough” in that third sense. That’s a standard I’d like to hold myself to more often. This essay is going to sit in the back of my head the next time I’m tempted to massage a negative result into something paper-shaped.

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Shaily Fozdar's avatar

I love this post. I’m not in academia, but I feel this so deeply — the question of what makes work meaningful or truly valuable feels so important, especially when it feels like the world is taking shortcuts and incentives the wrong type of work

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